Bin Laden: AUTHENTIC INTERVIEW
by Carol A. Valentine
Curator, Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
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Copyright, October, 2001
May be reproduced for non-commercial purposes.
October 16, 2001-- An interview with Osama bin Laden was
published in a Karachi-based Pakistani daily newspaper, Ummat, on
September 28, 2001. In this interview, bin Laden says of the September
11 attacks in the US:
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September
attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid
telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider
the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an
appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women,
children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the
course of a battle.
"It is the United States, which is perpetrating every
maltreatment on women, children and common people . . . " Everyone
familiar with the content of the Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
http://www.Public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
knows bin Laden is telling the truth.
News of this Ummat interview was suppressed in the US. Between
the time of its publication and October 7, the US apparently spent its
time creating a fake "bin Laden" interview, using either a
stand-in or morphing. Or was the fraud produced by the Brits, as a
favor to the US? No, the Taliban Home Video was a ham-fisted
effort. The Brits usually have more subtlety.
You can read about the US fraud, "The Taliban Home Video,"
at
http://www.Public-Action.com/911/hvideo.html
Attached to "The Taliban Home Video" you will find a copy
of a March, 1977 CNN interview with bin Laden, conducted by Peter
Arnett. Compare the content and the style of bin Laden's remarks
in the 1977 CNN interview with the content and style of bin
Laden's remarks in the September 28, 2001 Ummat interview. Yes, it
is the same man, all right. It appears to me that the Ummat
interview is authentic.
Here is a copy of the Ummat interview, which you can find at this
URL:
http://www.khilafah.com/1421/category.php?DocumentID=2392&TagID=2
I am grateful to InfoTimes <infotimes@rcn.com> for passing this
information along to me.
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Usama bin Laden Says Israeli Regime is Behind the 9-11 Attacks
KABUL, Afghanistan (Ummat): Prominent Arab mojahed (freedom fighter)
Usama bin Laden or the Al-Qaida group has nothing to do with the 11
September attacks on the Bush Administration, according to an Usama bin
Laden interview with Ummat, the Karachi-based Pakistani daily newspaper.
In his interview, Usama bin Laden pointed out that the Israeli regime is
behind the 9-11 attacks. He expressed gratitude and support for
Pakistan, urging the Pakistani people to continue their jehad against
dictators, tyrants, traitors, crooks, criminals, dictatorships and
tyrannies. Following is the text of Usama Bin Laden's interview
conducted by a "special correspondent" and published in the
daily Ummat on Friday, 28 September 2001. [The place and date of the
interview was not given by Ummat.]
Daily UMMAT: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in
New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you are
not involved, who might be?
USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah
(God), the most beneficent, the
most merciful. Praise be to Allah
, Who is the creator of the whole
universe and Who made the Earth as an abode for peace, for the whole
humankind. Allah
is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad (saw) for
our guidance. I am thankful to The Ummat Group of Publications, which
gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people,
particularly the valiant and momin (true Muslim) people of Pakistan who
refused to believe the lies of the demon (Pakistani military dictator
General Pervez Musharraf).
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September
attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid
telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider
the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an
appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women,
children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the
course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every
maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths,
particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine
for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the
United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim
countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had
earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia?
Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United
States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the
tyrants by these powers that America is an anti Islamic power and it is
patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim
countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating
these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its
choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the
United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.
The U.S. has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the
prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or
consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal
to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are
either its slaves or subordinates. However, our case is different. We
have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there
is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that it
will be disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most
of the world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones,
which are the enemies of the United States, or the U.S. itself considers
them as its enemies.
The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China,
Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq,
Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11
September are not the friends of the American people. I have already
said that we are against the American system, not against its people,
whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed.
According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the
U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want
the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the
perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part
of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are
working for some other system; persons who want to make the present
century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that
their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They
can be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the
U.S. itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped
groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you
cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush
ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.
Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require
billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government
every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the
existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these
agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first
started propaganda against Usama and Taleban and then this incident
happened. You see, the Bush Administration approved a budget of 40
billion dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to
the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their
importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for
increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers
from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies.
These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and
trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in
the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that
they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget.
General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was
made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any
other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human
rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this?
Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the
United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out
the attacks.
Daily UMMAT: A number of world countries have joined the call of the
United States for launching attacks on Afghanistan. These also include a
number of Muslim countries. Will Al-Qaida declare a jehad against these
Islamic countries as well?
USAMA BIN LADEN: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the
Muslims; to tell them as to what is good for them and what is not. What
does Islam says and what the enemies of Islam want? Al-Qaida was set up
to wage a jehad against infidelity, particularly to counter the
onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic states. Jehad is
the sixth undeclared pillar of Islam. [The first five being the basic
holy words of Islam (There is only one God in the entire universe and
Muhammad is the last Prophet of God), prayers, fast, pilgrimage to Mecca
and giving alms (zakat).] Every anti-Islamic person is afraid of jehad.
Al-Qaida wants to keep jehad alive and active and make it a part of the
daily life of the Muslims. It wants to give it the status of worship. We
are not against any Islamic country. We do not consider a war against an
Islamic country as jehad. We are in favour of armed jehad only against
those infidel governments, which are killing innocent Muslim men, women
and children just because they are Muslims. Supporting the U.S. act is
the need of some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However,
they should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral
position if they support the attack of the Christians and the Jews on a
Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders of Islamic Shariah
[jurisprudence] for such individuals, organizations and countries are
clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are unanimous on
them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the
Ameer-ul-Momeneen [the commander of the faithful Afghans] Muhammad Omar
and the Islamic scholars. The hearts of the people of Muslim countries
are beating with the call of jehad. We are grateful to them.
Daily UMMAT: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and
Washington have proved that giving an economic blow to the U.S.is not
too difficult. U.S. experts admit that a few more such attacks can bring
down the American economy. Why is Al-Qaida not targeting their economic
pillars?
USAMA BIN LADEN: I have already said that we are not hostile to the
United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes
other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage
their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control
of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United
States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves
of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws
laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is
Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is
not uttering a single word.
Daily UMMAT: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through
other means, apart from the armed struggle? For instance, urging the
Muslims to boycott Western products, banks, shipping lines and TV
channels.
USAMA BIN LADEN: The first thing is that Western products could only
be boycotted when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and organized.
Secondly, the Muslim companies should become self-sufficient in
producing goods equal to the products of Western companies. Economic
boycott of the West is not possible unless economic self-sufficiency is
attained and substitute products are brought out. You see that wealth is
scattered all across the Muslim World but not a single TV channel has
been acquired which can preach Islamic injunctions according to modern
requirements and attain an international influence. Muslim traders and
philanthropists should make it a point that if the weapon of public
opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in the hand. Today's world is of
public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its
pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained,
everything that you asked for can be done.
Daily UMMAT: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far
been made by the Western media. But no information is beingreceived from
your sources about the network of Al-Qaida and its jehadi successes.
Would you comment?
USAMA BIN LADEN: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing
else. It has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have
many other things to do. The struggle for jehad and the successes are
for the sake of Allah
and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence is our
real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste
your time and through them, the enemy wants you to engage in things
which are not of use to you. These things are pulling you away from your
cause. The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which
makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and
gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become
afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most
dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using
it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the
psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what
the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You
can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a
war, which suffers from fear and helplessness.
Daily UMMAT: What will be the impact of the freeze of Al-Qaida
accounts by the U.S.?
USAMA BIN LADEN: God opens up ways for those who work for Him.
Freezing of accounts will not make any difference for Al-Qaida or other
jehad groups. With the grace of Allah
, Al-Qaida has more than three
alternative financial systems, which are all separate and totally
independent from each other. This system is operating under the
patronage of those who love jehad. What to say of the United States,
even the combined world cannot budge these people from their path. These
people are not in hundreds but in thousands and millions. Al-Qaida
comprises of such modern educated youths who are aware of the cracks
inside the Western financial system as they are aware of the lines in
their hands. These are the very flaws of the Western fiscal system,
which are becoming a noose for it and this system could not recuperate
in spite of the passage of so many days.
Daily UMMAT: Are there other safe areas other than Afghanistan, where
you can continue jehad?
USAMA BIN LADEN: There are areas in all parts of the world where
strong jehadi forces are present, from Indonesia to Algeria, from Kabul
to Chechnya, from Bosnia to Sudan, and from Burma to Kashmir. Then it is
not the problem of my person. I am a helpless fellowman of God,
constantly in the fear of my accountability before God. It is not the
question of Usama but of Islam and, in Islam too, of jehad. Thanks to
God, those waging a jehad can walk today with their heads raised. Jehad
was still present when there was no Usama and it will remain as such
even when Usama is no longer there. Allah
opens up ways and creates
loves in the hearts of people for those who walk on the path of Allah
with their lives, property and children. Believe it, through jehad, a
man gets everything he desires. And the biggest desire of a Muslim is
the life after death. Martyrdom is the shortest way of attaining an
eternal life.
Daily UMMAT: What do you say about the Pakistan Government policy on
Afghanistan attack?
USAMA BIN LADEN: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of
Pakistan who erected a blockade in front of the evil forces and stood in
the first file of battle. Pakistan is a great hope for the Islamic
brotherhood. Its people are awakened, organized and rich in the spirit
of faith. They backed Afghanistan in its war against the Soviet Union
and extended every help to the mojahedeen (freedom fighters) and the
Afghan people. Then these are very Pakistanis who are standing shoulder
by shoulder with the Taleban. If such people emerge in just two
countries, the domination of the West will diminish in a matter of days.
Our hearts beat with Pakistan and, God forbid, if a difficult time comes
we will protect it with our blood. Pakistan is sacred for us like a
place of worship. We are the people of jehad and fighting for the
defense of Pakistan is the best of all jehads to us. It does not matter
for us as to who reforms Pakistan. The important thing is that the
spirit of jehad is alive and stronger in the hearts of the Pakistani
people.
- Source: Ummat, Urdu-language daily newspaper based in Karachi,
Pakistan - Friday, 28 September 2001 - pages 1, 7. - Source: BBC
Monitoring Service. -
Source:
http://www.khilafah.com
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Carol A. Valentine President, Public Action, Inc. Copyright,
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